Are you... you're not addicted to porn by any chance are you?Sorry I have a bad sense of humour. Listen I can't say much but I can recommend the Way of Purity Course at www.settingcaptivesfree.com. And the Safe Eyes web filter (www.internetsafety.com).J

I discovered a 12 Step program to help me with my addictions and I am slowly getting away from porn. I no longer go to the local strip club, which has a porn store in it. I also avoid cam girls on the internet like the plague. I do this through reading the Bible and prayer, almost daily prayer... I am also no longer obsessed with finding a girlfriend and am happy with my relationship with God.

Life is good with God and prayer.

*bump*

That's good that you stopped going to the strip club because it has a porn store in it.. just got to find one that doesn't have a porn store, perhaps? Cam girls and strippers, like most sex workers, make a living by appealing to your sex drive to get you to part with your money. Hey, its a living and the weatlhy are their best clients, I'm sure. I hope you meet a nice girl soon, and don't judge yourself unworthy of such. Plenty of girls go through the same type of temptations. We're all in this together.

Thanks eastcoast. My goal is to avoid the strip clubs entirely if I can.

That should be easy enough. Very realistic goal.

...just don't drive those familiar routes by the clubs nor find some convenient reason to run an errand over there...

like the lady who was trying to lose weight and kept circling the block praying that if God wanted her to have a donut, a parking spot would open in front of the door as a "sign".

I dated an exotic dancer named Midnight for a little while. It didn't really work out between us though, sadly. A couple years ago I was so addicted to porn that after watching "Sex Rehab with Dr. Drew", I fell in love (again) with one of the pornstarlettes I saw on the show and drove 8+ hours to see her Christmas Day at the hospital. Now that's an addiction. Reminds me of the Robert Palmer song "Addicted to Love". I cried for a bit because it hurt not to be see her.

Especially with today's POV (Point of View) porn, it is hard to separate reality from fantasy. That is one of the appeals of the strip clubs. The fantasy becomes the reality. So are most of you actually porn addicts or do you just like refuting the Bible?

It's complicated in my case, but it would be fair to say I'm a porn user in moderation rather than an addict.

My deep desire to argue against Christians is of a more political nature. I've been at it ever since I read about the FRC fighting against HPV vaccination on the grounds that it might encourage premarital sex. I was annoyed enough that I not only wrote a letter of complaint to them (which they ignored) but have devoted much of my time ever since to debating in blogs and forums.

Wait... so are you a virgin SuricouRaven? Somebody stole my virginity and I haven't found it since. Just kidding...

God bless.

I think I've answered your question, but for the record, I ceased being a porn addict about 3 1/2 years ago.

Congrats. So you have been celibate all those years too?

Yes, I am indeed a virgin still. I see no reason to change this.

I was a virgin til I was 20 years old. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

I thought you were supposed to be ashamed if you weren't a virgin while single.

I am not a virgin and proud of my shingles :O

I like my life. Does God want me to stay single and only use my manhood for peeing and not masturbating?

I went into the clinic recently to get tested and came out with clean results. True story. I like this quote a lot:

"1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, because of his issue he is unclean." - Leviticus 15:1-2

The verse refers to open sores. The OT cleanliness laws are a strange mixture of hygine measures and just plain superstition.

I think it was about an STD, prob. gonorrhea . Later down around verse 16 is about normal emissions either via masturbation, wet dream, and further down, by sex with a woman. ADP1980 seems to live in another world

You are absolutely right! I do agree with you. I didn't know this was in the King James Bible though:

"16And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even.

17And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even.

18The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even." - Leviticus 15:16-18 (KJV)

And the New Living Translation:

“16 Whenever a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his entire body in water, and he will remain ceremonially unclean until the next evening.[a] 17 Any clothing or leather with semen on it must be washed in water, and it will remain unclean until evening. 18 After a man and a woman have sexual intercourse, they must each bathe in water, and they will remain unclean until the next evening." - Leviticus 15:16-18 (NLT)

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So when you ejaculate through masturbation and/or sex with a woman, you have to wash yourself with water... interesting. You also have to wash your clothing that has semen on it. Then finally two lovers have to wash each other with water. What does it mean to be "unclean" then if you clean yourself, your clothing, and your wife with water?

This is a wonderful passage. The dictionary defines unclean as "dirty; morally impure; evil; vile" How did God justify to Moses and Aaron that using your penis for sex and masturbation is unclean? I am confused. I like to wash things clean with water AND soap ... not just water.

These were rules of ceremonial or symbolic "uncleanness" that ended when Christ died for our sins. Read Colossians 2, Romans 14:14 and other passages. Hebrews talks a lot about this too, how Jesus has taken the place of the animal sacrifices and the regulations and rules regarding the temple. So, those rules are interesting, but they don't apply to us today. They were for symbolic purposes. You notice that a woman was unclean from having her period, but it doesn't mean she's sinful.

I think anything having to do with sexual discharge was regarded as unclean because Sin is transferred to the fetus in the process of creating it. On the other hand, the Egyptians had similar rules that a couple had to bathe after sex. I don't know how it got started. Use soap if you want, but keep it out of the urethra or you'll be sorry.

BTW, some look at that passage as only including wet dreams and sex, not masturbation.

"I think anything having to do with sexual discharge was regarded as unclean because Sin is transferred to the fetus in the process of creating it"

Original sin. But it isn't there as a concept in Judaism - it's a purely Christian invention, so that can't be the right interpretation.

OT cleanliness laws are weird. The one for skin infections, for example - it starts out with what seem like some very sensible precautions, like burning the clothing of the infected. But then it goes on, and ends up in a ritual sacrifice of turtledoves and annointing the infected with their blood. Many of the laws just don't make any sense to modern thinking, and they don't have to - they weren't written for a modern culture to comprehend.

One time when I was a teen, I burned my penis by masturbating with V05 (hair shampoo?). It was very painful. Was this God's punishment to me for masturbating? If so, that was one of the worst things that could have happened to me. I was way too young to marry. I didn't wash myself with water immediately after the "emission of semen". I don't like God's hateful wrath and wonder why he allowed this to happen to me. I most definitely prefer a loving God.

Bless you.

Good lord!...i mean: "Good Lord, please help our Brother here to get to know You in a spirit of Wisdom, Grace and Truth...and remind him that he was the one to grab the V05 and not You....Amen."

Oh nos! I fell again while listening to Christian songs on the radio no less... May the grace of God find me a new path to freedom from porn. I washed myself with water (and soap) in the shower. I feel much cleaner now.

Do you think sex is better for me than masturbation?

I cleaned and organized my room today. I haven't had a girlfriend since this last summer, but I keep falling... The Lord lifts me up each time with his love. You guys are almost as awesome as our God is!

The humor of A2P1980 continues I see. Never use soap when masturbating; it burns the urethra. Sex is at least 4 times more satisfying than masturbation. Dr. Stuart Brody did experiments on couples to prove this. 70% of guys say they prefer sex to masturbation; the rest of them, I guess, are virgins or have bitchy wives or maybe performance problems.

I'd rather eat a nice meal with someone, than watch other people while they eat. I'm glad you had a girlfriend. I imagine you'll meet someone else soon enough at Walmart.

Hello? *bump*

So I should break my celibate manners just because sex is preferable to masturbation?

God bless.

Find a nice girl in church to respect and date. If things work out, offer to marry her. If you aren't interested in sex, then don't date or marry.

If I am not interested in sex, then do not date or marry? By that logic, if I am interested in sex, then I can date or marry. Ok. That makes sense. Marriage for me is about begating kids. I'm not quite ready for kids yet though, but I can practice my dating skills...

So many itching ears and so many teachers here. Do you not know..

God is Almighty

I wonder why God created porn if it is so bad for us...

Or @addictedtoporn1980 ....you can give her your babies now and tell her to blame it on @paulg1.

ADP you seem to want to attribute human values to God. If it was left to right or wrong (good or bad) and justice had to be done, you and I would be crispy critters a long time ago. But we are blessed that He decided out of love to make a way and He is patiently waiting I mean he has all the time do you?

I am Christian and also believe that without God, we probably would not have those "human values". I think God created sex so we could "be fruitful and multiply" (Genesis) but man created film, which partly led to erotica.